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Transportation: Buying a Used Bus
By: Marty Rhyne Here are 20 of the biggest mistakes made when buying a motorcoach. 2. No two buses are alike even if they are the same make, year and model--something is always different. 3. Just because it is a “Southern” or “West Coast” bus doesn't mean it is rust free. Remember that all buses will have some superficial rusting in places. These coaches run up north and in the snow, also. 4. When looking at a bus, look from the bottom up. You would not build a house on a shaky foundation; neither would you want to build, much less ride, on a rusted-out frame. You have to look at all coaches for the rust factor. Depending on how the coach was maintained can determine how bad the rust factor is. Also ask if any rust problems were ever repaired and treated; if so, ask where on the coach and when was this done. Your main concern is the main frame section of the bus, as this is where you can get into a lot of money. Rust is like cancer--it spreads, so be careful. 5. Always ask to see if records are available on the coach. These would include any minor or major repair. If records are not available, ask if you can talk to the mechanic, shop foreman or the primary driver of the coach. 6. Ask the mileage on the engine and the transmission. Depending on the age, most of the coaches are high in mileage, but they are built to go long miles if they are properly maintained. 7. Do not rely on the odometer to give you the actual mileage. Odometers on buses are prone to break, so check and see when and if a hubometer was installed and what that mileage is. 8. After checking the frame and drivetrain out, then focus on the cosmetics, such as body damage, paint condition and interior condition. It is always easier to paint, change seat covers or redo the carpets than, say, rebuild an engine or do extensive frame work. A bad paint job never left anyone on the side of the road. 9. When looking for an Eagle Coach, remember that the majority of them were owned and run by what was then Trailways, which was later bought by Greyhound in 1990. Eagle Coach Company built their last bus in 1997. Parts are still available at certain places throughout the country. 10. When looking for an MCI Coach, remember that the majority of these coaches were owned and operated by Greyhound. These coaches are still being produced to date. 11. If you find a coach that has never been a Trailways or Greyhound, you normally get a bus that has less total coach miles and normally less wear and tear. Remember that just because it was a private-owned bus does not mean that it was kept up. It is better, but these coaches are not that plentiful. 12. Normally warranties on used coaches are not offered. If one is offered, ask if it is a nationwide warranty or if you have to come back to their establishment for repairs. 13. Engine warranties are tricky. Again, find out the particulars of the warranty. Most require a transfer fee when you buy the bus. You also should find out if the proper maintenance files are up-to-date. The warranties will require that certain types of oil are being used and that you have kept the bus on their required maintenance schedule. Not all warranties are what you may think they are. 14. After you have found the bus you think you like, if you have any doubts as to some of the information given to relating to the mechanical end of the coach, ask if you can get a non-biased opinion from another mechanic that is not on their "payroll." We always encourage our buyers to feel free to bring their own mechanics to check out the buses that we sell. We have mechanics that do work for us that are not on our payroll, and we offer their services to the buyer at the buyer’s expense to check out the bus. 15. If you do not have all of the money to buy the coach, know that when you go to your local bank for the money, most of the time they will look at you like you've lost your mind (especially if the bus is 15 years or older in age). Banks do not know how to put a value on buses. Several banking institutions offer this kind of financing, but be ready for some short terms in the time they expect you to pay it back. 16. If you are buying a coach for charter use, you are required to have at least $5 million in coverage; for private use, it can vary with the age of the coach, cost of the coach and the replacement value that is put on it. 17. Just because a bus is titled a 1995 or any other year it does not mean that the MSO (manufactures statement of origin) is the same year. In some states, you can take an older coach and "reman" it. After specific items and changes are done, a "new" title is issued in the year that the "reman" is completed. This is now when the bus is given a new title and year model. As long as the seller is telling you that the 1995 Eagle that you are purchasing has an actual frame date of, say, 1972 or 1985, then everything is fine. 18. Always ask the reason the bus is being sold. You do not want to buy someone else's problem. Many times the person or company may be upgrading or going out of business. 19. There are times when working with a client they may have found a coach that they think may be better or simply may have a lower price. We are always willing to check out the coach or company to see if the company is reliable and trustworthy and to see if the coach is what they expect. 20. Last, but not least, always deal with someone that can give you references. If you are not comfortable with the company you are dealing with, go somewhere else. Marty Rhyne, a North Carolina native, has been involved in the buying and selling of buses for more than 20 years. He is president of Flagship, Inc., www.thebusman.com. Product Roundup Classic Coach by Champion Bus ChurchBus.com Concorde II by Glaval Master’s Transportation Don Brown Bus Sales Prevost H-Series Carpenter Bus Sales |
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